In this episode of Paid to Create, I sat down with Dave Munson, founder of Saddleback Leather and author of the new book They’ll Fight Over It When You’re Dead. Dave’s story is one of relentless curiosity, unwavering faith, and a passion for building things that matter. 

We got deep into how a single leather bag turned into a brand people brag about owning—and why creating something people love starts by solving your own problems. This one’s for anyone who feels that call to build something great from the ground up.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

✅ Why Dave says starting is the most underrated business tactic
✅ How to create products people brag about owning
✅ Why “success” has nothing to do with your bank account
✅ How Saddleback used storytelling to build an insanely loyal fanbase
✅ The connection between faith, failure, and craftsmanship

In this episode, I handed the mic to Lolita Allgyer—our brilliant messaging and story strategist here at Copy Chief—for a deep dive into what makes story-driven copy land with real emotional punch. This was more than just an interview. Lolita came in with the mindset of a strategist working with a client (me), and what followed was an honest, curious, and wide-ranging conversation about creative process, storytelling instincts, personal evolution, and how parenting shaped both my writing and my life.

We talked about everything from writing emotionally connective emails to how marijuana and music open creative portals, plus how the art of observation fuels direct response copy that connects on a deeper level. If you're a freelance copywriter working to bring more soul and strategy into your messaging–ya know, the human stuff–then, this one’s for you.